Comments on: Ether for Janks Morton, Shelby Steele and The Legion of Fools (or Toms) http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42 Essays and fiction that explore popular culture and politics. Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:31:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Greg http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-160 Greg Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:39:26 +0000 http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42#comment-160 Janks, dude uses "Nigga" in loving and complicted ways for all black people. That seems like its one of the points of the site. This site is a breathe of fresh air in all that rhetoric we get from people like you. And I did see the film and think that calling you a Tom is polite. He gives you credit for hustling and he gave you your own word, "jank". Isn't that enough. He's just injecting humor into his critique. Yours was funny, but not on purpose. Janks, dude uses “Nigga” in loving and complicted ways for all black people. That seems like its one of the points of the site. This site is a breathe of fresh air in all that rhetoric we get from people like you. And I did see the film and think that calling you a Tom is polite. He gives you credit for hustling and he gave you your own word, “jank”. Isn’t that enough. He’s just injecting humor into his critique. Yours was funny, but not on purpose.

]]> By: Janks http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-159 Janks Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:06:43 +0000 http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42#comment-159 actually I'm a libertarian. And did you have to use the tom and nigga on me...dayum! Nice critique, by someone who hasn't seen the film or had a chance to speak with me directly re:, well, anything. p.s. and I have lectured/debated Dyson and West, and well they show me a lot more love than I'm feeling here. actually I’m a libertarian. And did you have to use the tom and nigga on me…dayum!

Nice critique, by someone who hasn’t seen the film or had a chance to speak with me directly re:, well, anything.

p.s. and I have lectured/debated Dyson and West, and well they show me a lot more love than I’m feeling here.

]]> By: Dre http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-70 Dre Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:01:11 +0000 http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42#comment-70 You killin 'em! You killin ‘em!

]]> By: Kiese http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-69 Kiese Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:19:59 +0000 http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42#comment-69 Damn, ED! You forgot to say ether. I guess when you feed the establishment, you can't bring "and" into your critique. You've gotta keep it polar, but all I'm asking for a baby "and." Dyson came to Vassar and ripped it a few months ago. At the core of his critique was the necessity of embracing "and" without flimsily lapsing into some post modern all-things-are-equal shit. Anyway, I'd love to see brother Janks, cousin Steele take on brother Dyson and sister Crenshaw. Carnage, cuz. Carnage. Damn, ED! You forgot to say ether.

I guess when you feed the establishment, you can’t bring “and” into your critique. You’ve gotta keep it polar, but all I’m asking for a baby “and.” Dyson came to Vassar and ripped it a few months ago. At the core of his critique was the necessity of embracing “and” without flimsily lapsing into some post modern all-things-are-equal shit. Anyway, I’d love to see brother Janks, cousin Steele take on brother Dyson and sister Crenshaw. Carnage, cuz. Carnage.

]]> By: ED http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-68 ED Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:46:28 +0000 http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42#comment-68 First, being an exceptional black means never having to say you’re sorry. Second exceptional blacks can never be critiqued by other blacks because other blacks are just making excuses for their lack of expectionalism. Hence, who are you talking to? Oh, me? Why thanks, I’m so unaccustomed to…. steele, morton and them will always be "right" because the people they are talking to/writing for have no deep investment in the betterment of black lives (as your post on Dexter points out). we know Toms will be Toms, but why do white people want to believe that black men, in particular, sit around ranting about white racism all day long? morton and them make a great living feeding the establishment the story it wants to hear. And if black men are sitting on stoops or in cells ruing the day they ever met white racism, then it stands to reason that white people in boardrooms and classrooms are having equally absurd conversations about why black men blame them for the failure of “the black man.” That’s white guilt…and even I know that white people can’t sit in that crap for very long because it’s bound to be boring. thanks for taking these “racial luminaries” to task for trying to bog us down in the personal responsibility blame game. *And of course mortan looks like Morpheus: Morpheus is the coolest black dude to escape Zion (that imaginary pleasure dome filled with colored folks who haven’t gotten around to saving themselves because they’re too busy dancing to rave music) in years. First, being an exceptional black means never having to say you’re sorry. Second exceptional blacks can never be critiqued by other blacks because other blacks are just making excuses for their lack of expectionalism. Hence, who are you talking to? Oh, me? Why thanks, I’m so unaccustomed to…. steele, morton and them will always be “right” because the people they are talking to/writing for have no deep investment in the betterment of black lives (as your post on Dexter points out).
we know Toms will be Toms, but why do white people want to believe that black men, in particular, sit around ranting about white racism all day long? morton and them make a great living feeding the establishment the story it wants to hear. And if black men are sitting on stoops or in cells ruing the day they ever met white racism, then it stands to reason that white people in boardrooms and classrooms are having equally absurd conversations about why black men blame them for the failure of “the black man.” That’s white guilt…and even I know that white people can’t sit in that crap for very long because it’s bound to be boring. thanks for taking these “racial luminaries” to task for trying to bog us down in the personal responsibility blame game.

*And of course mortan looks like Morpheus: Morpheus is the coolest black dude to escape Zion (that imaginary pleasure dome filled with colored folks who haven’t gotten around to saving themselves because they’re too busy dancing to rave music) in years.

]]> By: Bennett http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-67 Bennett Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:35:25 +0000 http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42#comment-67 Heat! Anastasia, that's a great question. Why morpheus? He holds the key to getting us to Oprah and Cosby status? The Morpheus is funny funny man. Sad that he's making millions off this documentary. Heat! Anastasia, that’s a great question. Why morpheus? He holds the key to getting us to Oprah and Cosby status? The Morpheus is funny funny man. Sad that he’s making millions off this documentary.

]]> By: Anastasia http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42&cpage=1#comment-66 Anastasia Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:56:53 +0000 http://kieselaymon.com/?p=42#comment-66 Now I know Janks did not say that, "Anything is possible, just look at Oprah Winfrey and Bill Cosby"...come on First of all, we all know that they are some serious exceptions in the black community who had to do some major ass kissing to get to where they are, and that it is ten times more difficult for a black person to get where they are than a white person. Second, why do they always have to be "the" role models for black people. All they have done is made A LOT of money. Oh and why does Janks look like Morpheus in the beginning of this video. Now I know Janks did not say that,
“Anything is possible, just look at Oprah Winfrey and Bill Cosby”…come on

First of all, we all know that they are some serious exceptions in the black community who had to do some major ass kissing to get to where they are, and that it is ten times more difficult for a black person to get where they are than a white person. Second, why do they always have to be “the” role models for black people. All they have done is made A LOT of money.

Oh and why does Janks look like Morpheus in the beginning of this video.

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